[SOLVED] How to design variable resistors R0 to represent the frequency-dependent loss in ADS

[thundrous]

I am trying to replicate a result of a paper in Advanced Design System software. It is mentioned that the resistance is variable and its equation is 10e-9f (GHz) + 5.

When I drew the resistance in the software and wrote the formula, a syntax error showed up.

Would you please guide me on how to enter this equation? Is there any specific module I need to enter inside the equation field?

Here is their equivalent circuit:

and here is the equivalent circuit that I drew:

I would appreciate it if you please help me.

 

[dick_freebird]

Seems like it just wants a wee bit of series L?

 

[BigBoss]

Use equation based s-parameter blocks.
Define first s-parameters matrix of a series resistor then enter these values into equation based blocks with the variable "freq". Otherwise it will not recognize.

 

[thundrous]

Use equation based s-parameter blocks.
Define first s-parameters matrix of a series resistor then enter these values into equation based blocks with the variable "freq". Otherwise it will not recognize.

Thank you very much for your response, until now I updated the equivalent circuit as follows, but still I cannot reach the proper data. Do you have any idea where the problem is? Also, i do not know how to introduce the frequency as the variable "freq". I tried to but the software does not accept it.
any suggestion appreciated.

 

[thundrous]

Seems like it just wants a wee bit of series L?

I do not know, would you please explain more?

 

[thundrous]

@RealAEL Do you have any idea?

 

[BigBoss]

S-parameters matrix of a series resistance ;

Here Z=R in your case.
Then use equation based s-parameter block like this.

then you will see that s-parameters are not constant versus frequency. (If the resistance was constant, s-parameters should have been constant too but they aren't due to frequency dependence of the resistance)

 

[thundrous]

S-parameters matrix of a series resistance ;
View attachment 180869
Here Z=R in your case.
Then use equation based s-parameter block like this.
View attachment 180870
then you will see that s-parameters are not constant versus frequency. (If the resistance was constant, s-parameters should have been constant too but they aren't due to frequency dependence of the resistance)
View attachment 180872

Thank you very much for your guidance I did what ever you mentioned in the previous comment as follows based on my current device and here is my Equivalent circuit:

S21, S11 are my experimental results and S65, S55 are for the simulation

I've got a good verification between S21 and S65, However the S55 does not seems good and it starts from -10dB
So based on the article I changed the frequency loss resistance depedance as follows: I eleiminated R=50

then the slope of S55 changed but still it starts from -10dB. It seems the variable Rlossy has lots of effect on our measurments and by changing the formula i even needed to change the capacitance C4 for validation between simulation and experiment results.

Would you please guide mewhich one is current and where did I made a mistake because S55 should start from zero.

 

[BigBoss]

It was my own example, not real/your one. You have to define your own formulae by yourself. It might
be anything as you desire. I dont know the process that you've been working on.

 

[volker@muehlhaus]

I would model this as S1P data block, using Z parameters in real/imag format for easy data entry.

# GHz Z RIR 1.0
0.00 5 0
1.00 6 0
2.00 7 0
10.0 15 0

In ADS that S1P block is connected as a series element using both terminals (signal and ground).

 

[volker@muehlhaus]

edit: Typo in the file header, it should be

# GHz Z RI 1.0
0.00 5 0
1.00 6 0
2.00 7 0
10.0 15 0

 

[dick_freebird]

I do not know, would you please explain more?

If it's a real resistor then it has real inductance and perhaps
modeling it that way gets you where you need to go. The
stated behavior seems consistent with that (though whether
a simple lumped, or more fine grained network suits your goals
I could not say)