zener voltage reference, what is stable temp voltage?

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zener voltage reference

I am making a zener based UVLO. I thought that the temperature stable zener diode voltage was around 5.6V but I am finding literature stating it is 6.3V The technology I am designing with has 6.3V zeners, so I am likely stuck with that. An explanation would be nice anyway. Here are links to what I am talking about.

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https://focus.ti.com/lit/an/slyt183/slyt183.pdf
 

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snafflekid said:
I thought that the temperature stable zener diode voltage was around 5.6V but I am finding literature stating it is 6.3V
5.6V is the better fitting figure. But the exact value - i.e. the relative contributions of zener resp. avalanche mechanisms - depends on the steepness (doping concentration and depth) of the p+n(+)-junction.

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The technology I am designing with has 6.3V zeners, ...
An explanation would be nice anyway.
So your zener will most probably own a small negative temp.coeff. (s. citation from Allen/Holberg book below). Your foundry should tell you its value. If it's -2mV/K , you could perhaps compensate it by the temp.coeff. of a forward biased pn-junction (≈ +2mV/K).
 

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To get a true flat tempco you probably have to comp
it with some fraction of a forward diode (all, or none,
are both unlikely to be ideal). This may mean two trim
networks (if you're looking for that kind of accuracy).
 

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I have determined I need to build a UVLO using a Zener reference. I have breezed through CURRENT SOURCES & VOLTAGE REFERENCES by Linden T. Harrison and noticed that the flattest tempco of a Zener is around 5.5V. This jibes with what I have learned prior. Zener voltage references also add a pn junction and the Zener is set to have +2.1mV/C TC. For reasons I have not researched, this combination operated at a particular current has a near zero TC and results in a total voltage of 6.3V. However it seems to me that the Zener itself could be set to have a zero TC alone. My guess why this is not the common method is that this doping level is more sensitive to process variation than the level that has +2.1mV/C. I just don't know

Now, I am going to have to indirectly ask questions of the technology group to determine why the Zener we have is set to 6.3V. I have a suspicion that someone told someone that the zero TC voltage is 6.3V without understanding that this includes a Vbe! ARGH! Monday is going to be fun.
 

snafflekid said:
... My guess ... is that this doping level is more sensitive to process variation than the level that has +2.1mV/C.
Below pls. find a 9-year-old report on zener breakdown voltage dependency on ion implant dose. The process was 0.35µm std. CMOS. Foundry-specific info has been removed.

snafflekid said:
... determine why the Zener we have is set to 6.3V.
"Zener" breakdown at this voltage is much steeper than at lower breakdown voltages (s. the report below), because - with increasing breakdown voltage - the avalanche mechanism dominates more and more the zener breakdown mechanism. Thus the breakdown voltage at a certain current shows a much lower tolerance.

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I have a suspicion that someone told someone that the zero TC voltage is 6.3V without understanding that this includes a Vbe!
I don't think you can get a zero TC voltage of 6.3V, even with a series circuit of a 5.6V "Zener" diode and the forward Vbe of a normal silicon diode (≈ +2mV/K), because the TC of a 5.6V "Zener" diode - which is far more an "avalanche diode" - tends to be positive, too, about +1mV/K, s. this curve. In order to compensate the ≈ +2mV/K TC of a forward Vbe voltage, a real Zener diode with a negative TC of about -2mV/K is required, and this necessitates a zener with a breakdown voltage of about 4.0 .. 4.5V , s. the a.m. curve (commercially available zener diodes of 4.3V show this TC). So a (near) zero TC voltage of such a series circuit would be about 5V.
 

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