i came to know that u can get those s/w from anonymous login also....but when i tried that "ls" command did not work!!! may they are hiding those s/ws. i hope many in our group knows the path and name of the softwares in that ftp site. i request him/her sincerely to provide those links for the use of students like us. pls consider this sincere request! (if it not allowed to post that link here, please tell me whom to pm )