Continue to Site

Welcome to EDAboard.com

Welcome to our site! EDAboard.com is an international Electronics Discussion Forum focused on EDA software, circuits, schematics, books, theory, papers, asic, pld, 8051, DSP, Network, RF, Analog Design, PCB, Service Manuals... and a whole lot more! To participate you need to register. Registration is free. Click here to register now.

vco phase noise measurement

Status
Not open for further replies.

sprinter

Newbie level 5
Newbie level 5
Joined
Jul 30, 2009
Messages
10
Helped
0
Reputation
0
Reaction score
0
Trophy points
1,281
Activity points
1,348
Hi,
I'm having trouble measuring vco (probing on a vco die) phase noise because there're unwanted side bands at an interval of 15MHz. The carrier is at 8GHz.
Could this be coming from the dc power supply or somewhere else? Any suggestion of making a clean measurement?

Thanks,
Adil.
 

If the tested VCO is part of a PLL, the 15MHz spur could be the reference frequency.
If is a stand alone VCO, is true, this spur could be from a DC/DC converter leaking through a power supply. Just probe the DC line using a scope, or a high impedance probe and a Spectrum Analyzer.
 

Most of your phase noise of interest, should be closer-in.
If you are using a spectrum analyzer resource then a lower
display bandwidth about center frequency and a high
resolution bandwidth should give you a useful picture
to extract info from.

Or, you might prefer to do time-domain samples, collect a
jitter distribution and use jitter - phase noise formulae
for the ATE (you might have to do some bench correlation to
satisfy yourself of its accuracy). The good thing about the
statistical, time domain approach is that you could post-filter
the data for crazy numbers before running the stats and figuring
the phase noise.

Do you have (say) a 5, 3 or 1MHz clock anywhere in the ATE
or on chip? 3rd and 5th harmonics are strong on digital signals,
I've seen chips have trouble with the 13th even (looking for
-120dB or so, every stinkin' repetitive digital signal is a threat).

At 15MHz you ought to be able to use chokes and caps to settle
down power supply noise. You could also break the power supply
feed and run the thing off batteries (a common thing when
making noise measurements) if you have a fortunate supply
voltage, or more batteries and a linear regulator if not. No
switching, no switching harmonics.
 

Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

Part and Inventory Search

Welcome to EDABoard.com

Sponsor

Back
Top