ultra wideband directional coupler~

[HOHOH]

wideband directional coupler

I want to find the solution about directional coupler.

frequency bandwidth : 100KHz ~ 3GHz, 100KHz ~ 6GHz
coupling value : 3, 10, 20dB
directivity : min 20dB

Is it possible?

Please, help me.

 

[soon]

directional bridge

It's really wideband.

"RF and Microwave Coupled-line Circuits" by Rajesh Mongia might triger some idea.

"Nonuniform Line Microstrip Directional Couplers and Filters" by Sener Uysal may also help.

Personally I think the 100KHz to 6GHz is almost impossible.

Soon

 

[flatulent]

wideband directional coupler vna

Look into using diplexers to combine two or more couplers each for a different frequency range. The diplexers are on all four external ports of the combined coupler.

 

[FANT]

hp778d

I have opened once the directional bridge from our HP8753 network analyzer, frequency range from 300 KHz to 3 GHz.
It is very complicated and seems that the tuning is hand made .
If you need a picture I will open it again.
If you need a coupler with coupled lines the best is the old HP 778 D ( 100 MHz to 2 GHz ).
Going to a lower frequency the phisical dimension of the coupler is becoming larger and so the losses.
Better is something like a bridge, but the attenuation is fixed.

Mandi

 

[flatulent]

directional bridge coupler

If you do not mind the coupling to change with frequency, ordinary parallel transmission line ones have a coupling coefficient which is proportional to the sine of the line length at the frequency you are using.

 

[g579]

hp 778 directional coupler

Hi FANT,

I'd appreciate if you could post (perhaps PM, not to overload the list) a few photographs from different angles on the directional bridge of the 8753 VNA.
One can always learn a lot, knowing how HP realize things that are difficult to do.

Thanks in advance
g579

 

[HOHOH]

anren wideband rf coupler

Hi, FANT

Thank you for your reply.

I want to see the pictures.

If you show the pictures, possible, please show me.

Thank you.

I have opened once the directional bridge from our HP8753 network analyzer, frequency range from 300 KHz to 3 GHz.
It is very complicated and seems that the tuning is hand made .
If you need a picture I will open it again.
If you need a coupler with coupled lines the best is the old HP 778 D ( 100 MHz to 2 GHz ).
Going to a lower frequency the phisical dimension of the coupler is becoming larger and so the losses.
Better is something like a bridge, but the attenuation is fixed.

Mandi

 

[sergio mariotti]

ultra wide band frequency coupler

The instrumantal directional couplers are easy in the schematic topology but difficult to replicate and require very accurate mechanics and very good operative skilness.
If not... why only few high cost companies like Agilent, Rhode-Schwarz sell it?

 

[FANT]

wide band rf coupler

Taken the pictures today; tomorrow or saturday afternoon I will post them.
Due to the fact the pictures are quite large ( about 1,3 M each ) can anybody explain me how to post more pictures in a post ?

Mandi

 

[flatulent]

8753d couplers

If you compress them as .rar or .zip you can put four per post.

 

[amicloud]

vna directional coupler

Are the wideband components designed with very different theories?

 

[FANT]

|hp778d

Here the pictures; sorry but my winrar program won't compresso, so only Winzip.

If necessary anything else just ask.

Mandi

 

[g579]

directional coupler vna

Hi FANT,

Thanks for the photos. I'll try to understand how this directional bridge details work.
I'll ask perhaps 2 or 3 more photos on some details.
Thanks anyway. As usual I always learns from HP.
g579

 

[laza]

coupler 8753d

I hope this application note guide to understand how this directional bridge details work. The extra broadband ballun realization is the preferred section in the bridge.

 

[laza]

hp 778d

I hope this application note guide to understand how this directional bridge details work. The extra broadband ballun realization is the preferred section in the bridge.

 

[Ctafford]

printed wideband directional coupler

Here's another intersting article on directional bridges. Probably similar to 8753 coupler.

 

[cuizw]

hp directional couplers

Hi,All
Thanks very much for your sharing of the photo and the app notes

 

[dream-cast]

8753d coupler

 

[alim2006]

i have a question , how can i make a directional coupler wideband?

Added after 3 minutes:

i meant tell me the method for making a wideband directional coupler.

 

[jef3055]

Woahh the pictures of the internal bridge in the 85044A are really impressives. Thank's for sharing