eem2am
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Hello,
I have designed an isolated, offline flyback LED driver (output current regulated) with no electrolytic caps. (Its 10W, 300mA LED current, 100KHz switching frequency)
The circuit you will see is , I virtually guarantee, the future of domestic mains lighting the WORLD over!!………………
The only way I can stabilise the LED current is to use the following compensation network.
WHOLE SCHEMATIC:
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(by the way, the actual circuit will use a quasi resonant flyback chip, but in essence, this is the circuit)
CLOSE-UP OF COMPENSATION NETWORK
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I got this compensation network’s component values by trial and error,
-please could you provide the small signal transfer function of the modulator, power stage, and error amplifier ?
(That is, the small signal, open loop transfer function of this power supply, so I can check the gain and phase margin for stability analysis)
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Here are CLOSE-UPS of other parts of this LED driver……
PRIMARY SIDE
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FLYBACK TRANSFORMER
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OPTOCOUPLER FEEDBACK NETWORK (with current sense filter)
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Here are some of the circuit waveforms:-
Primary DC bus
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(-please admire the wide mains rectifier conduction angle)
LED CURRENT
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Now here is the really strange thing,
The current sense resistor voltage has 500mV of peak to peak noise on it at the switching frequency……….
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CURRENT SENSE RESISTOR VOLTAGE
The above noise is there in spite of the 4th order RC filter
-I tried to filter away this noise with a 2nd order active filter as seen in the schematic but it does not help much, ………..
….since the FB pin of the opto-coupler driver still has 400mV of peak to peak noise on it at the switching frequency……….
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Opto-coupler driver FB pin voltage :
I cannot use a bigger secondary bulk capacitor because that would violate the whole point of this circuit…….
…it uses no electrolytics for bulk filtering , but instead film capacitors which are very bulky so I cannot use much of them.
(It is pointless using electrloytics in general LED lighting since the electrolytics will not last as long as the LEDs would last (10 years) )
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Here is the LT Spice simulation file:
https://www.2shared.com/file/880936...____FLYBACK_MAINS_LED_CLAMP_OPTO__171009.html
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So anyway, my questions are.
1. Please may you tell me how this circuit manages to work perfectly , in spite of the dreadful noise on the opto-coupler feedback pin?
2. Please may you provide the small signal transfer function of the modulator, power stage, and error amplifier/feedback network ?
(i.e. the open loop, small signal transfer function so that I can do stability analysis?)
Or please may you tell of the way I can work this out?
I have designed an isolated, offline flyback LED driver (output current regulated) with no electrolytic caps. (Its 10W, 300mA LED current, 100KHz switching frequency)
The circuit you will see is , I virtually guarantee, the future of domestic mains lighting the WORLD over!!………………
The only way I can stabilise the LED current is to use the following compensation network.
WHOLE SCHEMATIC:
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(by the way, the actual circuit will use a quasi resonant flyback chip, but in essence, this is the circuit)
CLOSE-UP OF COMPENSATION NETWORK
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
I got this compensation network’s component values by trial and error,
-please could you provide the small signal transfer function of the modulator, power stage, and error amplifier ?
(That is, the small signal, open loop transfer function of this power supply, so I can check the gain and phase margin for stability analysis)
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Here are CLOSE-UPS of other parts of this LED driver……
PRIMARY SIDE
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
FLYBACK TRANSFORMER
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
OPTOCOUPLER FEEDBACK NETWORK (with current sense filter)
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Here are some of the circuit waveforms:-
Primary DC bus
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(-please admire the wide mains rectifier conduction angle)
LED CURRENT
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Now here is the really strange thing,
The current sense resistor voltage has 500mV of peak to peak noise on it at the switching frequency……….
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
CURRENT SENSE RESISTOR VOLTAGE
The above noise is there in spite of the 4th order RC filter
-I tried to filter away this noise with a 2nd order active filter as seen in the schematic but it does not help much, ………..
….since the FB pin of the opto-coupler driver still has 400mV of peak to peak noise on it at the switching frequency……….
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Opto-coupler driver FB pin voltage :
I cannot use a bigger secondary bulk capacitor because that would violate the whole point of this circuit…….
…it uses no electrolytics for bulk filtering , but instead film capacitors which are very bulky so I cannot use much of them.
(It is pointless using electrloytics in general LED lighting since the electrolytics will not last as long as the LEDs would last (10 years) )
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
Here is the LT Spice simulation file:
https://www.2shared.com/file/880936...____FLYBACK_MAINS_LED_CLAMP_OPTO__171009.html
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
So anyway, my questions are.
1. Please may you tell me how this circuit manages to work perfectly , in spite of the dreadful noise on the opto-coupler feedback pin?
2. Please may you provide the small signal transfer function of the modulator, power stage, and error amplifier/feedback network ?
(i.e. the open loop, small signal transfer function so that I can do stability analysis?)
Or please may you tell of the way I can work this out?