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enclosed transistors
BTW, as I remember (may be it is not correct) that the Spice simulator has an option which defines how to consider the device perimeter - with or without the transistor width.
Moreover, may be if you define device pd/ps as 0, simulator substitutes it with some default value?
Im affraid you wont get any correct information on device 3D profile from fab if you dont have a direct access to technology/model information (if you are not a member of the fab's design support or technology team, for ex.)
But as I know some fabs have a special models for ring transistors.
Not a Cadence but a "rule writer". Are you sure he is right?Yarrow said:erikl said:How can the perimeter of any area ≠ 0 be 0 ?Yarrow said:The extracted drain area is (ad=) 2.6861 in that particular case. But when measured manually, it's about 50% smaller.
The drain perimeter is 0, and that is the only extracted parameter that is extracted correctly.
I am sorry, its my english that has gone bad. "ps" and "pd" dont stand for source/drain perimeter, the correct term is periphery.The green line distanse in the attached file is the periphery of the source/drain in the linear transistor. (0.23+6.0+0.23 = 6.46)
Apperently the periphery in Cadence is handeled like the outer edge of an object.
BTW, as I remember (may be it is not correct) that the Spice simulator has an option which defines how to consider the device perimeter - with or without the transistor width.
Moreover, may be if you define device pd/ps as 0, simulator substitutes it with some default value?
Yarrow said:Anyways, I think the right way to go is 3D CAD tools using finite-element-method (FEM). At the moment I am trying to aquire such a tool (Synopsys Sentaurus TCAD) to provide me with more accurate simulation results. Hopefully the CAD tool can be integrated with Cadence to enable for simulations on bigger cells then ones only containing a couple of transistors.
Im affraid you wont get any correct information on device 3D profile from fab if you dont have a direct access to technology/model information (if you are not a member of the fab's design support or technology team, for ex.)
But as I know some fabs have a special models for ring transistors.