From noise figure definition, the device under test must be linear to correctly respond to noise power at input to noise power at output. As the typical noise power is measured in pico- and nanowatts, linearity is no problem in low-noise ampliiers. But in complete receivers you must find the point to measure the output noise power before any detector or demodulator in order to correctly measure the output noise power.
Find Agilent white paper "noise figure basics" or the ARRL Radio Amateurs Handbook. Many engineers do not know the basics and fail in noise measurements.
Sir, what i mean to say is that in 1dB compression point why we can't measure the noise!! , why linearity is important?, can we measure noise( thermal noise) in the nonlinear region of an active multiplier ..., output noise power in nonlinear region is not possible ???
Your questions demonstrate that you have no knowledge of basics.
No, we cannot measure noise figure of a nonlinear system. I have explained clearly why.
You can measure noise power anywhere but in nonlinear devices there is no clear link to input noise.
I dont think u had explained the matter properly, whatever u had explained earlier that is a bookish explanation, that i know......,
I am sorry but you fail to understand this "bookish" explanation.
You can measure the noise power at any point you choose. But the thermal noise being Gaussian can only be referred to system input if the system response is linear. Otherwise the noise becomes clipped and is no more Gaussian, nor linked to the input noise.
Read some "bookish" explanation first, please. Otherwise you cannot understand important things.
You are not alone, MIcrowaves & RF are full of failures by "experts".
Why close in phase noise of LO for digital communication system is more serious concern than an analog communication system ??
There is no relation of phase noise to analog or digital communication system. Phase noise affects signal demodulation. If phase modulation is used, phase noise confuses phase demodulator.
Again it is clear to me that you have never read any textbook on communication systems and signal modulation. Without study you cannot understand our answers on the Forum.
In digital commiunication system close in phase noise( ~1-10 Khz) is important and this hampers phase demodulation process ( eg in PSK QPSk), whereas in analog communication system, modulation information sometimes lies several Khz away from carrier, hence phase noise is of less concern , Plz do refresh ur all text books before make such comments on forum...
Phase noise's effect on digi telecomm is very important.
For different modulation, different phase noise is required.
Such as for 3.5MHz QPSK, PN@1KHz may be important, but for 28MHz 64QAM, PN@10KHz is important.
That can be simulated during system design period.
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