Need to know max/min trigger voltage for xenon tubes

[grizedale]

Hello,

Please could you help us in finding information on Xenon flash tubes and trigger transformer used in our newly modified xenon flash lamps?
(Questions are at the end)





We are making a trigger circuit for 1W,2W & 5W Xenon flash lamps.


…SCHEMATIC 2 is our method of triggering……..

SCHEMATIC 2:
https://i45.tinypic.com/2d2ivsj.jpg

Our Excelitas xenon flash tubes (from 1W to 5W) are of the following part numbers:-

AGA 0017 DDS4
AGA 0017 DDS2
BGA 0329 DDS1
AGA 0025 DDS1

We cannot find datasheets for any of these part numbers, and so we do not know what is the minimum required trigger pulse to the trigger electrode.
-Also, we do not know what is the maximum allowable trigger pulse to the tube’s trigger electrode.

Do you have any idea what this maximum and minimum trigger pulse voltage will be?

Excelitas have yet to respond to our questions.

We can only find a datasheet for a “AGA 0017” tube part number……


…..however, it does not include the “DDS4” bit so we do not know if its our one.


These tubes are from a distributor who simply orders them , receives them and knows nothing else about them. (-these lamps were originally made by an old company which closed down and we took over…we are modifiying the lamps slightly and so need the datasheets now)

The surface mount trigger transformer that we are using is again by Excelitas, and again we do not have a datasheet for it……
-It is part number ZS1052-SUL(H) V02.

We can find a “ZS1052” part number, but its through hole….


I have no idea if “ZS1052 SUL(H) V02” can be regarded as having the same phasing and turns ratio etc as the “ZS1052” part number(?)



Anyway, if you can answer the following it would be very helpful:-



QUESTIONS:
…-What is the maximum and minimum allowable trigger pulse to each of the above xenon tube’s trigger electrode?

…-What (min/max) voltage is required across the above xenon tubes to allow them to flash over?

…-How do we find the datasheets for these xenon tubes and trigger transformer? (we’ve had no response from Excelitas)

…-Do you know of an alternative xenon tube & trigger transformer manufacturer just in case something has happened to Excelitas?
…..We are finding Xenon manufacturers these days are few and far between…..i guess tubes are going out of fashion?

 

[BradtheRad]

This link has enough info to fill a book. Both about xenon tubes and trigger transformers.

https://donklipstein.com/samflash.html

 

[grizedale]

Thanks,
I noticed that the donklipstein article talks about the high trigger voltage arcing to nearby circuitry.

-This is worrying, because i noticed that a competitor xenon-flash-lamp has a lot of silicone smothered all over the components near the flash tube and trigger electrode.

-Another problemk looks to be inductance in the trigger circuit and capacitance from the trigger electrode to its surroundings as it looms its way to the tube.

This is all going to make the design much more complicated.

 

[grizedale]

Sorry to keep asking ,, but i have looked and can't find out......do you know what is the minimum and maximum trigger electrode voltages required for triggering xenon flash tubes?

I am talking about the 1W to 5W ones like in the top post.

What sort of spacing is required between the trigger electrode and the low voltage circuitry?