LINUX( very begineer) help

linux begineer hel[p

Hi guys.....
I am very much interested in learning the linux. Till date I have been using the windows operating system. But I want to work on the linux sysem. some month before I have installed the RED hat linux but I found it quite diffificult.

I came to know that there are different linux system....like RED hat, fedora core,suse and Ubuntu. Which is the best for user like me???
Can anybody suggest me how can I learnt Linux system easily. Is anybody have any document to user like me ( very beging user)>
Thanx in advance

linux+japan

Hi

Well, personally i have used several distros of linux, centos 4, ubuntu8.04, fedora 5, opensuse 10.3.
I use cadence and ADS and sometimes Xilinx ISE for my experience i was searching a distro capable of handle these programs. If you are familiarized with cadence, the kernel to run it, it's quiet old for that reason i was limited to use Centos 4 o Fedora core 5. Then i tried opensuse and works perfectly.
This year was released Opensuse 11 and i hope i could install it and i was surprise that i could.

So now i have in Opensuse 11: Cadence USR5 2008-2(works OK), ADS2008, Xilinx ISE (lastest version OK),

My first recomendation is : Install Opensuse 11 (Download from here http://software.opensuse.org/) a reference manual to install it (**broken link removed**)
And a very basic of linux here: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/

I hope this could help you

Bye

David

+linux +ubuntu +mandriva +red +differences

For a beginner I'd recommend SUSE. It has great hardware support, a bunch of Software, and extreme ease of use. The install DVD has everything you'd need weather you're just a user or a developer. And all Linux users end up building software weather they want to or not

Ubuntu isn't a bad choice but you need a high speed internet connection to unlock it's power as the CD medium it comes on has very little software and hardware support. And coonfiguring DSL or Cable modems for a Linux beginner could be nightmare.

linux for begineer

I would recommend you to boot a live cd and install it from there.
Perhaps, Ubuntu, a Debian Based distro, is the easiest way to do it.

Debian is done by contributors on their free time, for hence there are not companies nor money involved.

xilinx opensuse 11

I would recommend you to boot a live cd and install it from there.
Perhaps, Ubuntu, a Debian Based distro, is the easiest way to do it.

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For a beginner this is what I wouldn't recommend.
Using a live CD is a good way to look at Linux possibilities, but installing from it a no no, for an unexperienced user this is a recepie for disaster. And the lack of a root password in Ubuntu is another.
Ubuntu was a nice idea but IMHO Ubuntu is not a good user Linux but more of a Coorporative alternative.
I've used Ubuntu and the default packages are far from lacking, after installing the minimal system from the CD (The DVD is sold and can't be downloaded for free) you'll need to download a couple of GigaBytes from the net to get a complete system running.
The easiest and most feature rich system is Mandriva. This is because they don't worry about mp3 and other software patents (a French thing) so you can play divx movies and listen to mp3's (Other Distros need extra software for this) and their installer is rather simple, the administration package drakeX is also simple. I prefer OpenSUSE.
But in the end all Linuxes are alike and in the it's a subjective choice. But the first experience is important to motivate the user to migrate to Linux.

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It's also interesting to see where a some of the more known free Distros comes from:
OpenSUSE --> Germany (SUSE) + US (Novell)
Ubuntu --> UK (Canonical ltd.)
Mandriva --> France (Mandrake Soft.) + Brazil(Conectiva Linux)
Fedora --> USA (RedHat Corp.)
Debian --> World(No official Owner)
Turbo Linux --> Japan

many derivatives from the above and many many more.

The easiest and most feature rich system is Mandriva. This is because they don't worry about mp3 and other software patents (a French thing) so you can play divx movies and listen to mp3's (Other Distros need extra software for this) and their installer is rather simple, the administration package drakeX is also simple. I prefer OpenSUSE.
But in the end all Linuxes are alike and in the it's a subjective choice. But the first experience is important to motivate the user to migrate to Linux.

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Agreed, which distribution is best is a choice best made out of experience. I am no newbie to GNU/Linux, I started with Mandrake (now Mandriva, and it was awful.) Then I tried Red Hat, and found it very unfriendly. Interestingly, Fedora Core rc4 was very easy to use, despite being a Red Hat product. Then Slackware (getting experience points here ), then Gentoo for 4 years. During my time with Gentoo, I played with the early incarnations of Ubuntu. I liked it a lot, but I was a control freak, and kept going back to Gentoo. Now I'm using Ubuntu permanently as I just want a easy life.

But I disagree. Ubuntu _used_ to not support mp3 and other proprietary media. It now supports it all by default. So playing region coded DVDs, DivX files, mp3's etc requires no effort at all. And, based on my experience with Mandrake (back in the day), I could never ever suggest Mandriva. Although, times change so it could now not be a pain in the backside. I don't know, and I don't want to find out

For a newbie migrating from Windows, I might be tempted to suggest SuSE. But I personally never liked SuSE. I would always recommend Ubuntu though. 8.10 is very VERY easy to install. The only thing that might trip you up would be the HDD partitioning tool. But then, I've never used guided, I have always done manual. The only slight problem ou might have with Ubuntu is the updates notifier. After install, it alerts you that updates are available. No fewer than 272 packages. That's a bit of a headache, but once it's out of the way it's fine. Only thing going for SuSE over Ubuntu is possibly YaST. It's central control configuration tool. Ubuntu configuration is a bit more modular (the polite way of putting it ) but again, it's no big deal.

So, long story short:
SuSE (maybe)
Ubuntu (definitely)
PC BSD (not Linux, is a different Unix variant)

This is, of course, all IMHO

Good luck.

I'm using Linux Ubuntu from many years and for any kind of applications (electronics design, software and firmware develop., web applications, music production...etc). I tryed many other distro, but Ubuntu is very well supported and simple to install/use. If you use it, you discover that form many many things is simplest than winzoz

Lollo

zio_nneo said:

But I want to work on the linux sysem. some month before I have installed the RED hat linux but I found it quite diffificult.

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Well, if that was a recent version of Red Hat, I doubt that you will find another distribution that suddenly makes things easy for you. If you decide that you do not want to put any work into learning linux, it might be a poor idea to persist, I don't know.

OTOH, if you are prepared to put some work in, then there are a number of distros, many of which have already been mentioned in this thread that you might prefer.

-first, choose a GUI (kde, Gnome, xfce, enlightenment,...) and then look at distros which make it easy to get your choice of gui

-check out a live cd, to check the appearance is acceptable

-stick with something that you chosen for around six months; you might still decide to hop distros, but at least you'll be better informed when you do

If you know which specialist programs you intend to run (eda programs, presumably), it would be a good idea to check that these programs are available from repos for your chosen/short list of distros.

Look online for tutorials, how-tos; there are many of these available online and some are very good.

You say nothing about the actual differences that slowed you down, so more specific advice can't be offered.

Another vote for Mandriva here. I also don't like the whole sudo thing under Ubuntu, I prefer KDE to Gnome as well.

I think Mandriva has hands-down the best configuration tools of all the distros and the community web site is very friendly and helpful with no RTFMs or any of the other snobbishness you can find sometimes.

The Mandriva free DVD at 4G is a big download, but has such a vast array of software on it. I would recommend the 2008.1 version as being the most reliable and stable at the moment.