Help me with using high voltage process model and mosfet

[twonsr]

HIGH VOLTAGE PROCESS

Dear all :

I am using a high voltage process model to do some design.

I have a problem as below :
Due to the high voltage process can't drive much current , the mosfet just only has 100~200 nA but it is still in saturation region.

But somebody knows what the practial measurement is ?
Is it possible to have only 100~200 nA and work correctly in a real IC ?
If not , how much current is appropriate and reasonable ?
My process is UMC 0.6u 18v.

TKS

 

[electronrancher]

HIGH VOLTAGE PROCESS

That sounds too weak - I think your transistor is sized wrong. First, 0.6um can't hold up to 18v, it would need to be 2-4um meaning that you should be using sizes nearer to 20/2 rather than 6/0.6. Are these mosfets DMOS or standard CMOS?

Can you PM me - I am interested in this process, I would like to take a look. I can help debug your mosfet troubles as a return favor.

 

[twonsr]

HIGH VOLTAGE PROCESS

yes , it's right.
Although this is a 0.6um process , the high voltage device must have 3um length at least.
But the process file is confidential, I can't share it to you,sorry.
I just want to know if the simulation current in saturation region is 100-200nA, how much current will be the real current ?

 

[mists]

HIGH VOLTAGE PROCESS

i think the 100-200nA is too small, and this value will be much difference in different PVT corner, so it is hard to designcircuit.

 

[okguy]

Re: HIGH VOLTAGE PROCESS

Are you sure that your HV models are accurate in that region ... suggest to check with UMC.

 

[alanbrooke]

Re: HIGH VOLTAGE PROCESS

Wah! only 200nA, So small,
maybe I think it is the leakage current in HV process.
Can you double check it?

 

[Colbhaidh]

Re: HIGH VOLTAGE PROCESS

I have worked on a high voltage 20V nmos transistor (not UMC) and the Idsat was around uA. What you are seeing must be Idss (sub threshold leakage current -although it is high) or weak inversion current.
Remember the Vt of this device will be about 1.0V or more.