Sep 10, 2011 #1 G grizedale Advanced Member level 3 Joined Jun 13, 2011 Messages 838 Helped 17 Reputation 34 Reaction score 17 Trophy points 1,298 Activity points 8,804 Hi, The following capacitor (1uF, 400V = ECWF4105) has an esr of 1.52 at 84KHz. the datasheet page 6 tells this.............. CAP DATASHEET **broken link removed** Page 7 tells that this cap can handle 6 Amps of ripple current at 84KHz. ....but that would mean this capacitor dissipating 54W of power, which it surely could not possibly do?
Hi, The following capacitor (1uF, 400V = ECWF4105) has an esr of 1.52 at 84KHz. the datasheet page 6 tells this.............. CAP DATASHEET **broken link removed** Page 7 tells that this cap can handle 6 Amps of ripple current at 84KHz. ....but that would mean this capacitor dissipating 54W of power, which it surely could not possibly do?
Sep 10, 2011 #2 FvM Super Moderator Staff member Joined Jan 22, 2008 Messages 53,111 Helped 14,792 Reputation 29,871 Reaction score 14,291 Trophy points 1,393 Location Bochum, Germany Activity points 301,073 There's no ESR specification in the datasheet. The impedance curves suggest an ESR (= minimum value of impedance) of several 10 milliohm, which sounds reasonable.
There's no ESR specification in the datasheet. The impedance curves suggest an ESR (= minimum value of impedance) of several 10 milliohm, which sounds reasonable.
Sep 10, 2011 #3 G grizedale Advanced Member level 3 Joined Jun 13, 2011 Messages 838 Helped 17 Reputation 34 Reaction score 17 Trophy points 1,298 Activity points 8,804 Hi, The middle graph, page 6, RHS, tells us that the dissipation factor for 1uF, 400V at 84KHz......is around 0.8.....meaning 1.3 Ohms esr Last edited: Sep 10, 2011
Hi, The middle graph, page 6, RHS, tells us that the dissipation factor for 1uF, 400V at 84KHz......is around 0.8.....meaning 1.3 Ohms esr
Sep 10, 2011 #4 M mtwieg Advanced Member level 6 Joined Jan 20, 2011 Messages 3,899 Helped 1,311 Reputation 2,628 Reaction score 1,433 Trophy points 1,393 Activity points 29,947 grizedale said: Hi, The middle graph, page 6, RHS, tells us that the dissipation factor for 1uF, 400V at 84KHz......is around 0.8.....meaning 1.3 Ohms esr Click to expand... What? Where does it say dissipation factor is 0.8? Maybe you're confusing it with pin diameter? By my reading of the D graph, it should be around 0.5%.
grizedale said: Hi, The middle graph, page 6, RHS, tells us that the dissipation factor for 1uF, 400V at 84KHz......is around 0.8.....meaning 1.3 Ohms esr Click to expand... What? Where does it say dissipation factor is 0.8? Maybe you're confusing it with pin diameter? By my reading of the D graph, it should be around 0.5%.
Sep 10, 2011 #5 G grizedale Advanced Member level 3 Joined Jun 13, 2011 Messages 838 Helped 17 Reputation 34 Reaction score 17 Trophy points 1,298 Activity points 8,804 woops. thanks for that, i was forgetting that DF is in %, and the 0.8, is actually 0.008......or 0.005 depending on how the graph is extrapolated. so esr = DF.XC = 9.47mR ...sounds better......
woops. thanks for that, i was forgetting that DF is in %, and the 0.8, is actually 0.008......or 0.005 depending on how the graph is extrapolated. so esr = DF.XC = 9.47mR ...sounds better......