Explain me the results of this transmission gate

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Transmission Gate

Hi everyone.
The transmission gate(fig1) is powered from 0-1.5V, the simulation results (fig2) are good. But, when I powered it between ± 1.5V (fig3), the low level is poorly transmit(Fig4). I ask if someone can explain these results.



 

Re: Transmission Gate

The substrate is connected to ground.

The NMOS transmits the '0' and the back-gate (body/substrate) is at 0V and thus won't pass -1.5V very well. There will also be parasitic diodes set up by these voltage levels. In general the substrate really should be tied to the lowest voltage supplied to the chip.
 

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Re: Transmission Gate

Hi Old Nick,
But, in the schematic we have not acess to the substrat!!
 

Re: Transmission Gate

joujou said:
Hi Old Nick,
But, in the schematic we have not acess to the substrat!!

use a different model of transitor, and you will!
You have it for the PMOS, and there is an NMOS with it too.
 

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Re: Transmission Gate

Hi Old Nick,
you want to say that there are other models of NMOS with a variable Substrate but in our thecno there doesn't exist.
Realy, this transmission gate(TG) is used in a switched capacity(SC) integrator which is powered betwen +-1.5V, do you think that this problem (of Substrate) can affects the functioning of the integrator?
"I will try it now"
 

Re: Transmission Gate

I'm surprised that there isn't a model of NMOS with a body connection, try searching through a few different libraries.
If your substrate is tied to 0V and you're trying to pass 0V then it will be a problem. There may be way's round this in the sim.
When you layout NMOS devices you have the choice of connecting the source and body together or source to some-other voltage and the body to GND (this gives rise to the body effect).

Added after 4 minutes:

I've just realised I've been talking rubbish.
It's your PMOS that is passing the 0!

I'll have a bit of a think and get back to you.

Added after 5 minutes:

Looking at you're graph again, it does look like it is about a threshold voltage out. I'll just try and sim it myself and see if I can fathom what is going on.

Added after 21 minutes:

Here's the sim and the circuit I used, and it works.[/img]

IGNORE WHATI SAID ABOUT THE PMOS!

Symptom of sleep depravation
 

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Re: Transmission Gate

I'm sure that the problem comes from the NMOS and you are right: it comes from the substrate effects.
Because, when i simulate only the NMOS as a switch, I have the same problem
 

Re: Transmission Gate

i think so. I've never fed a -ve voltage to a chip before, and I'm not sure how the models will treat parasitic diodes etc.. But the PMOS should passing the 0 (-1.5V), an NMOS won't pass a zero at all (it wil get to within a threshold of it (which is what you're seeing).
It may be that your PMOS is not turning on, I'm not sure why though, the substrate is connected to +1.5 and the gate is connected to -1.5V so it should be OK? try removing the NMOS and just passing -1.5 with the PMOS.

Just realised i wasn't talking rubbish the first time, I'm talking rubbish now, the NMOS transmits the 0.

I need a lie down, I was up too early this morning and to bed to late. My word!!!
 

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Re: Transmission Gate

Thank you a lot Old Nick,

I iunderstood that the solution is to connect the substrat of the NMOS to the VSS (-1.5V) but our techno not able to be powered between ±1.5. So, I will work with 0-3V

Bey
 

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