[SOLVED] EM simulation for the large system

"Divide and conquer" is a valid approach. This is a good strategy for MoM simulations because memory scales with the square of number of subsections. In your layout, I don't see much risk for cross coupling between pieces.

However, your placement of ground pins is not valid. These redundant closely spaced ports which almost identical voltages can lead to matrix singularities and invalid results. I understand why you tried this, but it's causing issues. From a physical viewpoint, there is no need to have all those pins in places where "nothing happens". Current flow is mostly on the edges, and the really important ground plane ports are near the signal port, which seem to be missing in your screenshot.

I would reduce the ground plane pins to a single ground pin left and right from the input and output, with manually controlled port width of a few microns. When you run that simulation, you will also see if there is any resonance in the remaining ground plane that would require more ports to connect other ground plane pieces.

Regarding mesh density, ADS allows to set different mesh density for different layers, and even for different polygons. You could try to simulate the ground planes as thin metal (sheet) and only the signal traces as thick metal. This will save a lot of mesh cells, and thick metal model has very small effect for these planes that are far away from the conductors. Just enable edge mesh for the ground polygons, but not thick metal.

For an example of agressive partitioning, you might have a look here:


This work was done with the Sonnet MoM solver, which has more accurate port calibration than Momentum, but it gives an idea how extreme the partitioning could be without excessive error in results.

Thank you for your quick response!

When you run that simulation, you will also see if there is any resonance in the remaining ground plane that would require more ports to connect other ground plane pieces.

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Could you explain more on this, I don't understand your point here and How can I see the resonance in the ground plane?

I would reduce the ground plane pins to a single ground pin left and right from the input and output, with manually controlled port width of a few microns

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If I only use one ground pin for input/output signal, I know that the ground pin must be near the signal pin, but for example, in my layout, I can place the pin on the ground above the signal pin or the ground below it, where should I place the pin? we see that if we use the signal path as the boundary line, we will have two separated ground planes and they may have different impedances so that the results would be different from each other, am I right?

I mean that if you simulate your layout, you can check current density calculated by Momentum and see where current is flowing. You will notice that there is no current flow on those remote ground areas, far away from the signal path. Placing many ports there has no benefit, and creates the risk of numerical issues if those ports are "almost identical" with just some micron of copper between them. That's why I strongly recommend to place only ports that matter for current flow.

To see current density, you must enable that in emSetup > Output plan, and define what frequencies should be saved to disk. For an initial analysis, you can choose "all generated frequencies".

For a coplanar ground, see the screenshot below, this is a sketch how I model these cases. The port size L for the grounds is an estimate, I usually make that equal to the line or gap width, or maybe a little larger. Don't make those ports too wide.

thank you very much!!!
I got the idea