Eshal
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Find somehow a ARRL Handbook (it's available at their site with a reasonable price) search in it and find a AM transmitter circuit diagram and implement it..Kindly tell me how to make most simplest AM voice transmitter? The most simple one.
No. I want to design on my own .....
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say "Most probably"Eshal said:So you can you guys help me or not?
That's one of the challenges to responding to a single post requesting information/advice in this forum - there is a very wide range of skills & ability represented amongst our members (not to mention the multiple cultures & languages too) and correctly pitching the level of a response can be difficult. We (incorrectly?) assumed you had a grasp of the required background/fundamentals since you initially asked for help in *designing* a transmitter, as opposed to simply *making* one (which you indicate you actually want to do as per your last post).Eshal said:You guys talking much high level conversation.
I don't know how much frequency is required. I just know I want to transmit my voice over a few range in feet or meters.You still haven't told us what frequency you want to use. AM is a kind of transmission, not a band or channel, it can be on any frequency but the design has to be quite different for each one.
Yes dear you are right, I want to transmit my voice so that it can heard on a nearby domestic radio.Am I right in thinking you want something to transmit your voice so it can be heard on a nearby domestic radio? If so, the frequency should be somewhere between 0.5MHz and 1.5MHz.
Actually, what I got knowledge is all about from book, I am using electronic communication modulation and transmission by Robert J. Schoenbeck. And in this book he didn't mention anywhere how much frequency is required to transmit voice, neither I have any help to do this that's why I turn to this forum but you guys seem not to help me. :-(It's quite obvious from your response to the various correspondence that you don't want to design your own, and that you are incapable of doing so. What you do want is for someone to give you a design which you can copy.
You have neither the knowledge or facilities to check whether or not your proposed device caused interference, and I suspect that you don't care.
You should abandon it until you have a lot more knowledge.
Thank you misterI'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say "Most probably"
But I am newly adopted girl to electronics heheheheh.. lol :-DThat's one of the challenges to responding to a single post requesting information/advice in this forum - there is a very wide range of skills & ability represented amongst our members (not to mention the multiple cultures & languages too) and correctly pitching the level of a response can be difficult. We (incorrectly?) assumed you had a grasp of the required background/fundamentals since you initially asked for help in *designing* a transmitter, as opposed to simply *making* one (which you indicate you actually want to do as per your last post).
Thanks for you voluntarily help but please don't ask me to repost my question or I will loose the starting of the thread which I have gotten now.The nice thing is this forum caters to people at both ends of the spectrum (the designers and the constructors) and there is no judgement about which type of activity you prefer. Many of us - me included - exist at both ends! All we ask is that you don't get offended/defensive when someone assumes something about your ability from a few scant words. We're all here *voluntarily* to help. Rephrase your question, and ask again... nicely.
I want to transmit my voice over low range.OK, with that out of the way, what - exactly - are you wanting to do? Broadcast your voice across the room? Build a college/community radio station? What power/frequency?
Do you want help in *designing* (which will require you to be comfortable with the RF behaviour of transistors) your circuit, or do you want us to recommend an easy-to-assemble design and explain to you [at some level] how it works?
Yes I am much interested and that's is why I am trying it by myself without any pre-made circuit.OK, I'll be honest and say despite our/your best efforts/intentions, we're not going to be able to teach you all the necessary background in an internet forum - there is simply too much diverse ground to cover. (This is why an engineering degree takes years). What we can do though, is give you some pointers and leave you to experiment. There is no better teacher than your own time and enthusiasm to chase down something that interests you!
I don't know how to don shopping on internet. I will ask about crystal oscillator at my nearby hardware shop. But I will buy it when my paper work is completed. Now I am trying to make circuit on paper and using simulators.As betwixt said, if you want to use a domestic AM radio as your receiver, your transmitter will need to use a frequency a) unused by any other local stations, and b) somewhere within the broadcast band limits of 0.5 - 1.5 MHz. The stability of your oscillator (which determines your frequency) is of paramount importance if you want your signal to sound reasonable, not interfere with anyone else and for your "station" to stay in the same place on the dial. For that reason, I'd strongly recommend you used a crystal oscillator rather than starting with your own LC oscillators. The latter are infinitely more flexible, but a whole lot harder to debug without experience and/or test equipment.
Hey.. :-DIn fact, I'm going to point you back at my circuit of post #5 as a fairly foolproof place to start with your own designs.
U3 is a commercially available (via any component supplier, Ebay etc) oscillator that generates a 1 MHz [square wave] output. Don't worry about the "square" aspect of the signal, since it's of little practical consequence here. What matters is that it's a 5volt peak-peak signal, stably oscillating at 1 MHz. In fact, if you power the oscillator up (with a 5 volt supply) and bring an AM radio nearby, you'll hear a "quieting" of the background static hiss as you tune through 1 MHz (~the middle of the dial). This is because the output of the oscillator is *unmodulated* - i.e. just a fixed amplitude signal (since "AM" refers to modulation - variation of the amplitude - of the carrier frequency). The un-varying oscillator amplitude thus appears to the receiver as a signal carrying no audio, and therefore the receiver "quietens" when tuned to it.
I am understanding this too. And I know about Op-amp. You just don't worry about them.The transistor Q1 performs two functions: While it amplifies the oscillator's constant amplitude signal to a (potentially) greater voltage to increase the transmitters range, it provides the means by which we can *vary* the amplitude of the oscillator's output and thereby impress modulation - our audio signal - on it. The op-amp U1 [which I don't have time to cover now] is an audio amplifier, raising the input audio voltage signal to levels comparable to the battery voltage. It supplies the voltage (power) to our amplifying transistor. As the audio signal we wish to transmit goes up in voltage, so too does the voltage U1 supplies to the transistor. This then enables the transistor to amplify the oscillator's (constant) signal to larger amplitudes, i.e. we've made it bigger in response to our audio input.
Nope. Your teaching style is quite simple. I want you to help me on this forum in regarding with electronics. However many experts here can help me, but by the time now I am understanding you and you understood me that's why you are helping as you are teaching me how to walk. heheheheh... :-DThere are many subtleties to the circuit which I'll neglect for now, though it will (should) work OK as drawn. Go grab an oscillator (e.g. **broken link removed**) and start tinkering! You'll learn far more in 5 minutes than listening to me ramble for hours... good luck
I don't know how much power is suited for this. You tell me how should it be as I am transmitting my voice over rooms with 1MHz carrier frequency?How much power do you need to cross the room? Negligible quantities (microwatts). Pretty much anything you build will probably work, and if it doesn't, use a longer piece of wire as the antenna! (Antennas are another field entirely
Ah, the author is correct if you already *have* an AM signal that you are trying to amplify, since class A/B-push-pull amplifiers are *linear*. i.e. they faithfully reproduce input amplitude variations at their outputs. The linear characteristic is then required (read: essential) to preserve the modulation already present on the amplitude of the carrier.Eshal said:One thing which is confusing me. As you provided circuit is low level AM transmitter. In book, I read that final power amplifier for low level AM transmitter should be class A or class B push pull. But here you used in class C configuration. Explain please.
Can you explain this about which power are you talking about? If I don't need any power amplifier then what is 1mW about?You probably only need a power output of 1mW (1/1000 Watt) so although not ideal,
Oh great explanation you did. My herooOO.. :-DThe power is a measure of how much signal leaves your transmitter. Many things decide how far away your signal will be received, for example the more power you transmit, the stronger your signal will be at a receiver a long way away but the antenna and surrounding objects, even the weather can change the range. For very short distances the power you need will be very low, that's why I said 1mW should be enough. A power level of 1mW is so low that an oscillator can produce it by itself without needing any amplifier to boost it.
Ideally, you want a signal which does not change in frequency from where you want it to be. It should change in amplitude according to your voice into the microphone and it should not be influenced by anything nearby or changes in temperature.
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