Connection of Amplifier at the output of Voltage Network analyzer

[Nathan1]

Hello, I am currently conducting RF-to-DC conversion measurements for a rectifier circuit at approximately 20 dBm. I do not have access to a signal generator, and our Keysight ENA network analyzer has a maximum output power of 0 dBm. I am considering using an RF amplifier (32 dB gain, max output 32 dBm) to amplify the VNA's output up to 20 dBm. Would this setup be safe for the VNA, or are there potential risks I should consider?

Thank you!

 

[D.A.(Tony)Stewart]

No problem.

But if you ask AI...
Damaging a Vector Network Analyzer (VNA) can happen accidentally through a few common mistakes. Here are some ways that can cause harm to a VNA, either by exceeding its tolerance limits or by handling errors:

1. Overpowering the Input Port: Most VNAs are designed to handle a limited input power, usually around +10 to +15 dBm. Exceeding this limit by connecting a high-power source, like an amplifier or an active device without attenuation, can damage the input port or the internal components.
2. Applying DC Voltage to RF Ports: VNAs typically measure RF signals, which should be AC-coupled without any DC offset. Introducing DC voltage to the ports—such as connecting to a powered-on device with a DC bias—can lead to permanent damage. Use DC blocks if any devices in the circuit have a DC bias.
3. Mismatched Impedance: Using non-50-ohm systems or not matching the impedance between the device under test (DUT) and the VNA can result in reflections that may harm the VNA over time. Always ensure your DUT impedance is matched to the VNA input, usually at 50 ohms.
4. Static Discharge (ESD): VNAs are sensitive to electrostatic discharge, which can damage sensitive internal circuitry, especially on high-frequency ports. Always use proper ESD protection practices, including grounding yourself and using grounded equipment.
5. Mechanical Shock or Vibration: VNAs are sensitive instruments. Dropping, bumping, or subjecting them to vibration (like in transport without protection) can misalign or damage internal components, affecting accuracy or functionality.
6. Using Poor Quality or Damaged Cables/Connectors: Poor quality or damaged cables can introduce faults or even high power into the VNA. If connectors are worn or improperly torqued, they may introduce noise, inaccuracies, or even damage sensitive RF connectors on the VNA.
7. Connecting Antennas Directly in a High RF Environment: Measuring antennas without proper attenuation in an area with strong RF signals (like near transmitters) may allow external signals to overload the VNA, damaging its input stages.

Taking care when using a VNA will help prevent damage and prolong the device's life.

 

[BigBoss]

It won't be any issue since you will measure DC value of the rectifier.You can use VNA as a Signal generator if you set the VNA to Single Frequency.

 

[Nathan1]

No problem.

But if you ask AI...
Damaging a Vector Network Analyzer (VNA) can happen accidentally through a few common mistakes. Here are some ways that can cause harm to a VNA, either by exceeding its tolerance limits or by handling errors:

1. Overpowering the Input Port: Most VNAs are designed to handle a limited input power, usually around +10 to +15 dBm. Exceeding this limit by connecting a high-power source, like an amplifier or an active device without attenuation, can damage the input port or the internal components.
2. Applying DC Voltage to RF Ports: VNAs typically measure RF signals, which should be AC-coupled without any DC offset. Introducing DC voltage to the ports—such as connecting to a powered-on device with a DC bias—can lead to permanent damage. Use DC blocks if any devices in the circuit have a DC bias.
3. Mismatched Impedance: Using non-50-ohm systems or not matching the impedance between the device under test (DUT) and the VNA can result in reflections that may harm the VNA over time. Always ensure your DUT impedance is matched to the VNA input, usually at 50 ohms.
4. Static Discharge (ESD): VNAs are sensitive to electrostatic discharge, which can damage sensitive internal circuitry, especially on high-frequency ports. Always use proper ESD protection practices, including grounding yourself and using grounded equipment.
5. Mechanical Shock or Vibration: VNAs are sensitive instruments. Dropping, bumping, or subjecting them to vibration (like in transport without protection) can misalign or damage internal components, affecting accuracy or functionality.
6. Using Poor Quality or Damaged Cables/Connectors: Poor quality or damaged cables can introduce faults or even high power into the VNA. If connectors are worn or improperly torqued, they may introduce noise, inaccuracies, or even damage sensitive RF connectors on the VNA.
7. Connecting Antennas Directly in a High RF Environment: Measuring antennas without proper attenuation in an area with strong RF signals (like near transmitters) may allow external signals to overload the VNA, damaging its input stages.

Taking care when using a VNA will help prevent damage and prolong the device's life.

Thanks @D.A.(Tony)Stewart

--- Updated Sunday at 12:00 AM ---

It won't be any issue since you will measure DC value of the rectifier.You can use VNA as a Signal generator if you set the VNA to Single Frequency.

Thanks a lot @BigBoss