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This is a normal AC/DC Converter.The exercise problem can't be calculated without knowing RL time constant and respective current waveform. Input current lag angle varies between 32.5 degree (L=0) and 50.7 degree (RL = 23.4 ms).
The grid, i.e. the voltage Vrms,grid is a completely normal sine wave (from a European grid with 50 Hz). V(t)=325*sin(w*t). So Vrms = 230V (Root Mean Square).Your math may be correct as far as I know. It sounds as though you recognize something similar to power factor error, and wish to correct it or reduce it. Power factor error occurs when AC goes through an inductive load. Reactance causes the voltage waveform and Ampere waveform to shift out of alignment with each other. The circuit carries elevated Amperes all around. The conventional solution is to install the (correct value) parallel capacitor.
However the situation changes evidently with your power supply topology. Despite the incoming mains voltage waveform being a sine-wave, the Ampere waveform becomes less sine-like. The AC is switched On suddenly (which produces a different result than typical AC current lagging of sine voltage), and the AC is rectified, turning it into DC which responds in a different manner than reactively. So you may shift the Ampere waveform somewhat by adding the capacitor, although it's questionable how closely the result confirms your calculations.
Should have been mentioned, specifically because the previous post deals with finite rather than zero ripple. Nevertheless zero ripple is a sufficient specification.L is large enough so that the current on the output side is a constant 40 A (so no ripple current)
Yes and no. The exercise specifies compensation to cosphi 0.8 rather than 1, so real current matters for the calculation.Only the reactive power is to be compensated.
It isn't.So my calculations should be correct?
My only requirement is that cos(phi) = 0.8Hi,
cos(phi) vs power factor:
* cos(phi) is phase shift, which means you get reactive power
* with power factor (PF) you don´t necessarily get reactive power.
And if I´m not mistaken, your circuit can not generate significant reactive power. Thus cos(phi) already is 1. But PF is below 1, since you have a non linear load.
This means: on the input side of Brian´s simulation: V(t) x (I(t) never gets negative. (Negative = reactive power; positive = true power)
So you surely can improve PF .. a little by adding a capacitor.
But this causes cos(phi) to drop below 1 ... while PF is shifted towards 1.
Klaus
As a simplification, let's assume we have a sine shaped current. There must be a solution, because it comes from an old school sheet of mine.Hi,
Again: you calculate reactive power ... which I don´t think exists.
cos(phi) is only for sine shaped current, which you don´t have.
So - in my eyes - it is impossible to talk about cos(phi) at all.
Please do a simulation to verify my/your point.
Klaus
Product of instantaneous voltage and current is positive, but extracted fundamental current wave is 45° phase shifted sine and thus has cos(phi) of 0.71.I guess (!!) that V(t) x I(t) is positive all the time. This means all power is true power.
Playing with my own simulation as I altered values of L & R (output stage) I discovered certain combinations that did result in sine-shaped current. You can observe the same by running simulations. I forget whether power factor changed much, or if the capacitor made much difference.As a simplification, let's assume we have a sine shaped current. There must be a solution, because it comes from an old school sheet of mine.
I still don't know if my calculation is correct and I don't have the same circuit as I do in the simulation. My problem is that I have to dimension the capacitor so that cos (phi1) =0.8.Playing with my own simulation as I altered values of L & R (output stage) I discovered certain combinations that did result in sine-shaped current. You can observe the same by running simulations. I forget whether power factor changed much, or if the capacitor made much difference.
Thank you, I have finally understood the fundamental wave and how you arrive at the 25,465A.The calculation goes like this:
Fundamental wave magnitude of 40 A bipolar square wave with 90 degree conduction angle according to fourier series table
40*4/pi*cos(45 degree) = 36.013 A
Irms = 25.465 A
Real and reactive component for 45 degree phase shift.
Ir = Ix = 18.006 A
To achieve cosphi 0.8, Ix has to be reduced to Ir * tan(arccos(0.8)) = 18.006* 0.75 = 13.504 A
Required compensation current Ic = 4.502 A
Xc = 230/4.052 = 51.1 Ohm
C = 62.3 uF
The rectangular mains current is shifted by 90 degrees in relation to the mains voltage. Because the thyristor only switches through at 90 degrees and then current flows. So it should be 90 degrees and not 45 degrees?The center of the square wave is shifted 45 degree relative to sine voltage. 90 degree would mean pure reactive current which is obviously not the case.
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