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In the design of most OFDM systems before the zero padding there is an insertion of a 'zero' in the middle of the data carriers, why?
What and how do the pilot carriers work to make the OFDM system better?
 

actually the number of pilot carriers, zero carriers depends on the modulation scheme u r using for a particular stream of data and channel conditions. plz check these links

ofdm pilot signals, zero carrier


what is OFDM?



Question:FFT in OFDM
 

Hi Hanif
The links didnt make things clear for me. I want to understand the concept of pilot signals.
 

besongsamuel said:
In the design of most OFDM systems before the zero padding there is an insertion of a 'zero' in the middle of the data carriers, why?

Unused subcarriers in the middle is needed in order to avoid the problem of DC-offset in the analog quadrature demodulator.
 

thanks ux. what is DC-offset? what is the value for pilot systems in design???
 

Hi This is a very good question:
Please see my comments below

QN:In the design of most OFDM systems before the zero padding there is an insertion of a 'zero' in the middle of the data carriers, why?
ANS: I am taking reference of 802.11a for your answer.
1. Typically OFDM bandwidth is 20MHz and (10MHz both side).
2. Say 64-carriers are used(1-DC,52-Carrier+Pilot,11-Zeros)
3. So Inter carrier spacing is 20MHz/64=312.5KHz
4. Typically we need Spectrum shaping filter to eliminate out of band signals beyond 20MHz.
5. We can't design a real time filter with rectangular shape like a gain of '1' until +/- 10MHz. zero after that.
6. We are using 52 carriers (11 zeros) means we are using only 16.25MHz out of 20MHz and rest can be used as filter roll off. (There is a spectrum loss here), even in this case the side band constellation will have attenuation.
7. It is just to make it possible in real time implementation with loosing a small % of spectrum. i.e. 11*312.5KHz.


QN: What and how do the pilot carriers work to make the OFDM system better?

ANS: Pilots are used to track the residual phase error if present after frequency correction. Without this correction the constellation points starts rotating either +ve/-ve angle. It is very much sensitive at higher constellation.
We estimates phase say Θ , from pilots, then we corrects by multiplying exp(-j*2*pi*Θ) before demapping.

I Think it helps.

-Regards
-Ojha
 
would you please provide a reference for your very good answers?

your answers were very good.

thanks

kpojha said:
Hi This is a very good question:
Please see my comments below

QN:In the design of most OFDM systems before the zero padding there is an insertion of a 'zero' in the middle of the data carriers, why?
ANS: I am taking reference of 802.11a for your answer.
1. Typically OFDM bandwidth is 20MHz and (10MHz both side).
2. Say 64-carriers are used(1-DC,52-Carrier+Pilot,11-Zeros)
3. So Inter carrier spacing is 20MHz/64=312.5KHz
4. Typically we need Spectrum shaping filter to eliminate out of band signals beyond 20MHz.
5. We can't design a real time filter with rectangular shape like a gain of '1' until +/- 10MHz. zero after that.
6. We are using 52 carriers (11 zeros) means we are using only 16.25MHz out of 20MHz and rest can be used as filter roll off. (There is a spectrum loss here), even in this case the side band constellation will have attenuation.
7. It is just to make it possible in real time implementation with loosing a small % of spectrum. i.e. 11*312.5KHz.


QN: What and how do the pilot carriers work to make the OFDM system better?

ANS: Pilots are used to track the residual phase error if present after frequency correction. Without this correction the constellation points starts rotating either +ve/-ve angle. It is very much sensitive at higher constellation.
We estimates phase say Θ , from pilots, then we corrects by multiplying exp(-j*2*pi*Θ) before demapping.

I Think it helps.

-Regards
-Ojha
 

Sorry I don't have any reference for the answers I posted, I just gained some knowledge after working in industry in this particular field...

Thanks for your complement..


Aya2002 said:
would you please provide a reference for your very good answers?

your answers were very good.

thanks

kpojha said:
Hi This is a very good question:
Please see my comments below

QN:In the design of most OFDM systems before the zero padding there is an insertion of a 'zero' in the middle of the data carriers, why?
ANS: I am taking reference of 802.11a for your answer.
1. Typically OFDM bandwidth is 20MHz and (10MHz both side).
2. Say 64-carriers are used(1-DC,52-Carrier+Pilot,11-Zeros)
3. So Inter carrier spacing is 20MHz/64=312.5KHz
4. Typically we need Spectrum shaping filter to eliminate out of band signals beyond 20MHz.
5. We can't design a real time filter with rectangular shape like a gain of '1' until +/- 10MHz. zero after that.
6. We are using 52 carriers (11 zeros) means we are using only 16.25MHz out of 20MHz and rest can be used as filter roll off. (There is a spectrum loss here), even in this case the side band constellation will have attenuation.
7. It is just to make it possible in real time implementation with loosing a small % of spectrum. i.e. 11*312.5KHz.


QN: What and how do the pilot carriers work to make the OFDM system better?

ANS: Pilots are used to track the residual phase error if present after frequency correction. Without this correction the constellation points starts rotating either +ve/-ve angle. It is very much sensitive at higher constellation.
We estimates phase say Θ , from pilots, then we corrects by multiplying exp(-j*2*pi*Θ) before demapping.

I Think it helps.

-Regards
-Ojha
 
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