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Interdigital capacitor in HFSS

Hi,
I designed IDC in HFSS (see attached pics and HFSS file). How can I see capacitance of such IDC?

P.S. this is IDC on alumina substrate, just to see how it works in HFSS. Later I will make it on high permitivity BST material.
 

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can you get the s-parameters?
 
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Here, S11 and S12.
 

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Again, but imag and real part.
 

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since you have s-parameters you should be able to get the capacitance. There's a relatively simple transformation to go from s-param to Y-param
and from that capacitance (or inductance). There should be a past post in this forum that describes this. Looking at your graphs I'd expect there
to be a complicated frequency dependence. I usually write out the s-params into an .s2p format file and process the data in matlab.

Here's a matlab sniplet : (needs rf circuit package)

F=your frequency range
Z0=intrinsic impedance (usually 50)
s2p=your s-params

yp=s2y(s2p,Z0); % Y-params
y11=reshape(yp(1,1,:),1,length(F));
C11=imag( y11)./(2*pi*F); % capacitance
L11=imag(1./y11)./(2*pi*F); % inductance
 
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Should I use S12 or S11 parameters? Can you explain? Thank you
 

vfurlan said:
Should I use S12 or S11 parameters? Can you explain? Thank you
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you should use the full s-param matrix which in your case is a 2x2 matrix ((S11,S12),(S21,S22)) for each frequency point analyzed.
So the variable "s2p" above is a 2x2xN array : the last index runs over the number of frequency points analyzed.
The "s2y" function transforms "s2p" into another 2x2xN array ((Y11,Y12),(Y21,Y22)). Then Y11 can be used to get capacitance,...
Your "capacitance" could be frequency dependent (not constant)
 
S parameteres have to be in re +i*imag form of course?!
How do you export files in s2p format from HFSS? I do not have this option, although it is not a problem, I can perfectly well export in txt.
 

vfurlan said:
S parameteres have to be in re +i*imag form of course?!
How do you export files in s2p format from HFSS? I do not have this option, although it is not a problem, I can perfectly well export in txt.
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I'm running and older version (12.1) (don't have 13 unfortunately). What I use there is : (menu tabs)

HFSS -> Results -> SolutionData -> ExportMatrixData

There's also an EquivalentCircuitExport which I haven't used
 
Why don't you use y parameters calculated by HFSS?
 

sure,also you can directly export the y-parameter to do it.
 

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