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Comparator in Flash ADC

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ChikumaMatsumara

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For a flash adc, is it possible to use latch comparator with built-in threshold? I don't know how it can be implement in the circuit since it is fully differential comparator. Before this I have done flash adc using two stage op amp as the comparator, and it works....but still need some modification in terms of signal delay.
 

i have seen that someone use inverter with built-in threshold as comparator ,but havent seen latch comparator with built-in threshold,
does your flash adc with two stage opamp design work well ?
how about its inl dal snr and so on?
 
hi
it is possible to use inverter with built in threshold like tuza2000 said but it is not a good technique because each inverter has to be sized differently and accurately which might cause matching problems.
if you are using a differential comparator then how will a built threshold operation work? if it is to be a built-in type then i think it should be single-ended comparator.

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It will give you terrible INL/DNL problems because is no way to guaratee even the monotonicity. At least a resitive ladder is monotonic for sure.
And 2 stage op amp as a comparators sound terrible slow and inefficient.
 
Actually I use the two stage op amp in a design class. Tuza2000 was right about that, my flash adc did not perform well.
About the latched comparator, may be I was wrong. I'm not sure whether it is single ended or differential ended. Here I upload the schematic of the comparator
 

I think it qualifies as pseudo differential becuase you don't have a high impedance tail current source to reject CM signals. But is differential.
Anyway, this will not give you even a decent performance in a flash becuase:
- kickback noise at latch will upset refernces and input voltage;
- no preamplifiers means you will have a lot of metastability problems => wrong codes at the output.
- comparator have large offsets (small transistors, unmatched charge injection from switches) => wrong codes again.

A good flash has a few low gain high speed preaplifier stages (simple differential pairs, gain = 2-5) in front of a comparator.
 
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this latch comparator is very popular,
but as ocarnu said you should use preamplifier in front of the comparator.

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you can use preamp to setting small signal and prevent voltage offset and use latch stage to achieve high SR and big signal setting. both of them is important.
 

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